Sincerely, Jennifer.". ROBERT: Instead of dying at 40, I'd live to 70? MICHAEL MEANEY: I think the Swedish data are really, really strong, and very reliable. Putting this into context, you know, you have a rat mom and they have about 16 to 20 babies. JAD: Visited Kammerer's lab when Kammerer wasn't there. In this episode, originally aired in 2012,we put nature and nurture on a collision course and discover how outside forces can find a way inside us, and change not just our hearts and minds, but the basic biological blueprint that we pass on to future generations.Support Radiolab by becoming a member ofThe Labtoday. I had asked for a newborn, so when the social worker called me, she said, "I have this cute little baby girl for you but she's eight months old. Its something I still think about all the time. It takes a while. She is nine. Now the Sweden story from our last segment left us both feeling a little strange. How do these simple little traits get passed forward? You know? Plus, find other cool things we did in the past like miniseries, music videos, short films and animations, behind-the-scenes features, Radiolab live shows, and more. Not only that. Because while you might have a lot of influence, you know, genetically speaking, over your kids and their kids, you don't seem to have a lot of control. So he's got to live his life as a toad with all this baggage on him? They have six, seven, eight, ten, fourteen.]. Once their born, their genes are fixed and change does not happen in a generation or two. You can imagine these toads are like, "Dammit, fine. She'll be two in January. ], You get them $200 each, which they can spend on crack. They willed the neck to get longer, the muscles to get bigger. I mean, youre just youre saying a lot of things that are really impressive. I mean like, with the licking, is it a teaching thing where, you know, the babies become good mothers because FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: They've seen it and they've repeated the experience. LYNN PALTROW: The women who I've worked with, who've had a history of drug problems, aren't like the examples that she gives. The cheapest estimate is the work that needs to be done in 14 days. No, I've only had somebody call and say they regret that they didn't stay on birth control. Sample Page; ; [chuckles]. PAT WALTERS: Mamaw was the one I'd come to see. LULU: Oh actually, real thing, before we go, Latif. ROBERT: Remind me this. BARBARA HARRIS: Aw, you blew him a kiss? PAT: Barbara says they've reached out to her many times but they never heard back. SAM KEAN: He was really one of the first grand theorists in biology. I'm the founder and director of Project Prevention. But this stuff you're telling me about Sweden feels very grim in a certain way. This is spooky because it's like JAD: It means what if grandpa has a bad day? JAD: But that you supposedly can't get to. Oh, that's a lot of potatoes. Just to be sure, we asked Frances Champagne what she thinks of this data. And I packed up my stuff, it's pretty much done. I had everybody's abuse on my back and I didn't care how we said it, or how we did it. Is it a big town? OLOV BYGREN: So they didn't starve to death. CARL ZIMMER: Kammerer puts on a suit and he walks off into the mountains SAM KEAN: Outside Vienna on a Rocky mountain trail. Radiolab - Transcripts Subscribe 187 episodes Radiolab is on a curiosity bender. Your boys will first grow taller and taller for the next few years, and when they get to be about 9, 10 years old, they're going to stop growing just for a few years. ROBERT: Rewrite their their blueprint? FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: [laughs[ Exactly. Plus, you know, Lamarck didn't get all the biological details right. Were just talking about toad, I thought. And she's a complete nut. In this episode, originally aired in 2012, we put nature and nurture on a co In pictures, he has that, you know, that crazy Einstein fuzzy hair thing. Your boys will first grow taller and taller for the next few years, and when they get to be about 9, 10 years old, they're going to stop growing just for a few years. They have found very similar effects for smoking, for instance. Riksarkivet. Kinda makes me claustrophobic. DESTINY HARRIS: Yes. My mom needed a girl and, boop! These women don't just have one and two babies. He's not even eating at all. So much can happen after that. I guess the way I would look at it is that you can change your environment a lot more easily than you can change your genes. JAD: Everybody we talked to seems to think there's something really interesting going on here. ROBERT: So, the thought is, when those little boys in verkalix were really, really hungry, their hunger started a chemical process that reached all the way down to the DNA inside the boy's sperm. Because here's the thing, the churches up in verkalix kept incredibly detailed records. It's off-limits. JAD: Anyhow, so you got this guy, Paul Kammerer, who's good with animals. All these women who have so many babies and never try to seek drug treatment. One time, and I'm on flighter. He is passionate about scholarly writing, World History, and Political sciences. She did. Edward Condon Session III American Institute of Physics. The bit of DNA that will give this baby when it grows up the instincts to be nice to its baby, and lick that baby. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: You know, you've got all these chemicals around. CARL ZIMMER: You know, the fact is that taking care of animals, trying to keep them alive in a building is not an easy thing, especially if it's 1903. ], [ARCHIVAL Clip, Daytime Talkshow: I'd like everybody to meet, please, Barbara Harris. PAT: But along with the support came attacks, particularly as drug-addicted women began to sign up. With NPR's Rough Translation. And I knew that the only way I was going to get a daughter was if I went and became a foster parent and asked for one. She was totally an oops kid. Serotonin gets into the brain cells, and according to Michael unleashes A whole series of molecular events inside the cell. At the Vivarium, as the name suggests, they have live animals. ROBERT: According to Darwin, life and changes are ruled by chance. And rewrite the so-called rules of genetics. PAT: I like you, I get the sense that there's a lot of warmth in you. fact checked by Jamie Frater. LULU: A really good radiolab about this called Inheritance. But wouldnt it be nice if thats how it worked? They both say that they actually often forget that they're not biologically related. [ARCHIVAL CLIP, Jad Abumrad: Well lets lets read the book first. Yeah. PAT: So we did stop. This is real physical-chemical interaction between what's going on in the environment and what's going on with the DNA. And you have to bear in mind that at this point, it only had one hand left. This lady right here is still taking drugs and she could be pregnant again next month.]. It's against the rules. You mean, if you had a starving grandfather, you would be a healthier boy for the because you had a starving grandfather? We spay them. We had an expression here, "Dig where you stand." No, not brain cells. PAT: And as soon as she got there to pick him up, she could tell that something was wrong. JAD: Is that a genetic hatred of whistling that I just had? The neural chemical signal that gets activated during licking, is serotonin. Listen Feb 3, 2023 Ukraine: The Handoff Pregnancy, and choice, in a war. What they decided to do first was to try to figure out which rat was which, which meant, interestingly, counting all the legs. They suddenly had to get by on a tiny fraction of the food that they were used to. SAM KEAN: And so, they just had to hold on for the entire winter. The results make it probable that our descendants will learn more quickly what we know well, will execute more easily what we have accomplished with great effort, will be able to withstand what injured us almost to the point of death. That is a bad way to start a kid's life but that's just the beginning of the kid's life. [laughs[ So yeah, it's embarrassing, but I believe everything happens for a reason. Not been born at all. Around 1908, he started publishing all of these results. You're finishing college, right? And um PAT: Doctors would later explain to Barbara that Destiny's mom had been addicted to drugs while she was pregnant. I wonder how much you believe in it. SAM KEAN: In a little community called verkalix. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: There's a normal distribution, right? Methyl groups are pretty sticky, they're hard to get off. US $53.6 Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for VCM II Main Cable VCM2 16pin Cable VCM 2 OBD2 Cable VCM ii IDS V101 Data Cable at the best online prices at Free shipping for many products PAT: For me, this whole story really shifted PAT: When I started spending some time with Destiny, Barbara's 22-year-old daughter. I know what I'll do, I'm going to set up a terrarium for them and I'm going to make it hot, really uncomfortably hot. I don't like to upset people. Let me say this again. ], [ARCHIVAL CLIP, Jad Abumrad: How bout this one?]. Barbara Harris's solution is simpler than anything else out there. CARL ZIMMER: And when it came time to mate, the males and the females, they would mate in the water. You're not leaving this hospital unless you have long-term birth control.". And, I mean, I have straight A's and I'm making it work. To learn more about higher level giving opportunities please contact the Development Office at giving@nypublicradio.org or (646) 829-4130. That's really impressive. He was miserable to look at. In any case, what they saw at the end of all this counting wasWell, first of all, what they saw was this pattern that rat pups who got licked a lot as babies, when they grew up, they licked their babies a lot and the rat pups who didn't get licked a lot, when they grew up, they didn't lick their babies. You know, just take a little peek for themselves, and every time Kammerer said no, they were his specimens. MICHAEL MEANEY: Yeah, you can't touch that. SAM KEAN: And, you know, there was kind of antisemitism growing at this time, so he thought that someone had framed him, and six weeks after Nobel published his results in Nature, Kammerer sent a letter to Moscow. Right below the headlines says, "Scientist's great discovery which may change us all.". KARIN BORGKVIST LJUNG: Cancer. What you see in the records, is that one year 100 liters. So Barbara and her son got in the car and drove across town to the foster home where Destiny had been living for the past eight months. A little village? PAT: But were getting ahead of ourselves here. I'm almost done. She said, "Thank you so much for the gift, I bought my son an excavator truck, remote control and some summer outfits." They would experience these wild changes from harvest to harvest. They have six, seven, eight, ten, fourteen.]. We ended up talking to the guy who did the work. But in the middle of a conversation about how to fight the virus, we find a place impervious to the stalled plans and frenetic demands of the outside world. When Emil gets to be eight, I'm cutting him off. PAT: But at that point just two of the six boys were living at home, Brian and Rodney. His example with humans was a blacksmith. CARL ZIMMER: Is your wife going to hear this? Yeah. That you're just renaming it. Just until they hatch and then 'til they go off. And in one day, we can imagine, he gets curious. JAD: Thanks to Frances Champagne and Michael Meany and Sam Kean, who writes about Paul Kammerer in his book, The Violinist's Thumb. So we're going to leave you with a story from our producer, Pat Walters, about one woman's radical A few months ago, Pat made his way down in North Carolina, to a small suburb outside of Charlotte to visit this family. I'm Executive Director and Founder of National Advocates for Pregnant Women. That tongue is doing something to the DNA. JAD: So I guess you could say to yourself, "Seven out of eight of these kids did all right?". ROBERT: Which, when you think about it, it has a very Lamarckian flavor. If you were a great rat mommy, what would you be doing with your rat baby? What do I know? Thyroid hormones then get into the brain and they turn on certain neural chemical signals. It's just a mind crushing tedium. Radiolab believes your ears are a portal to another world. I don't have the biggest boobies in the world. They could eat twice, three times as much. Because it would reflect badly on the Soviet state. We talked to her for a little while and PAT: At a certain point the social worker pulls out a stack of papers. CARL ZIMMER: To build these terrariums and aquariums and stock them with animals. Covid has disrupted the most basic routines of our days and nights. The question that was stuck in my head right then was, "If you could choose between being born knowing that your life might end up like that and not like it is now, or not been born at all, what would you have done?". But here's what I did not know about DNA. MICHAEL MEANEY: What happens when moms lick their pups is that the pup beccomes aroused. View Radiolab_-_Inheritance_Questions.docx from BISC MISC at University of Mississippi. JAD: Or very many of them right at all, but, you know, his basic idea seems to be true. PEJK MALINOVSKI: Here we have how much they harvested. That doesn't matter. BARBARA HARRIS: And when I found out the bill didn't pass, I just thought, "I have to come up with something else. PAT: And she says, one day, this idea just came to her. He'd fall asleep and just wake up screaming. JAD: So then over the next 70 some odd years, Lamarck basically became the poster boy for, like, the big dumb idea, the idea that you want to believe in but that you know isn't true. JAD: But wouldnt it be nice if thats how it worked? Are you nine? SECTION I - Story 1 (Lamark, Krammerer & the Midwife Toads) 1. My home village was 10 miles North of polar circle. In this magazine article, Barbara even said, quote, "We don't allow dogs to breed. He had one remaining midwife toad. When Kammerer published his results initially, a bunch of scientists immediately began to say "Wait a minute, hold on here, it would be nice if life was like that but life isn't like that. His big idea, as you might know, is that what a person does in their lifetime could be directly passed to their kids. [ARCHIVAL CLIP, Jad Abumrad: Whats this letter right here? The fact that you're motivated by a really beautiful, important value, that we want healthy kids, doesn't mean the mechanism you're using is going to end up helping those kids. SAM KEAN: Because it would reflect badly on the Soviet state. Nice, cool water. DESTINY HARRIS: That's my little girl. When I started spending some time with Destiny, Barbara's 22-year-old daughter. Radiolab branded apparel and accessories are available at the Official Radiolab Online Store, aka the Swag Lab. ROBERT: Is that what you're saying? A couple of days later, I had already bonded with her so much, it was as if I gave birth to her. That's Sam Kean again. Where we began, they will accomplish. BARBARA HARRIS: Yeah, the social worker called and told me the mother had given birth. How much of you will echo into the future and how much of you won't? JAD: So he's got to live his life as a toad with all this baggage on him? Actually, the idea itself is pretty old. We spay them. I decided to have a press conference in my front yard to announce what I was doing. His example with humans was a blacksmith. This is Radiolab. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: Not usually because it upsets people and I'm Canadian. SAM KEAN: And at a time when you're not making the best decisions anyway. SAM KEAN: I guess the way I would look at it is that you can change your environment a lot more easily than you can change your genes. And The other day someone was whistling and I was like, "Stop it", and it just hit me, I was like, "Oh God, I was him", it's never appeared until now. Listen Jan 20, 2023 JAD: I mean, were not gonna do that ourselves. Yeah. JAD: I mean, it's pretty common but like, here's a for instance, my dad from my entire life had this thing where if someone was whistling, he would like they could be whistling six tables over in a restaurant and he would turn around and be like, "Stop that," it was like it was scraping his very nerves. I make a difference to her. So were getting close to the moment of truth, because there it is. That, in a sort of ass backward way was Michael's question. CARL ZIMMER: Enhancing public understanding of science and technology CHARLOTTE ZIMMER: in the modern world. You know, when smart people say, you know, "There's no such thing as nature and nurture it's only interaction of the two," You're like, "What the hell does that mean?" ", And I called my husband again at work and said, "They want to know if we want to take the baby." Kammerer thought, "Wow. I could have turned out like some of the other kids. So the great rat nightmare comes true where the females become their mothers. He was miserable to look at. She was thinking Can I offer these women money to use birth control? I'm going to graduate with honors and one day I'm going to be able to tell her, "Look, I did this. Each stone represents a radioisotope by means of a. I'm graduating in December. Transcripts and recorded audio may be available for many of the programs you hear on WNYC. ROBERT: Although, you know, sometimes that your grandfather's suffering helps you. So thats the reason, of course, that we work with rats because we can get inside the brain. That was the implication, except Kammerer tried to defend himself by saying "Do you think I'm a Dummkopf, or an idiot, because that's what I would have to be if I left a forgery with ink standing around openly in the laboratory where so many of my enemies would have entry?". JAD: Who now works at Columbia University. The sperm carries these marks to the next generation. Saying the mother had given birth to a baby girl, did we want her? Just sing. Is that a genetic hatred of whistling that I just had? Well, its offensive. Can you say oh my goodness? If you have a starving daddy, it turns out that the baby actually gets some sort of health benefit. That was amazing. JAD: Because you begin with a mother's lick that ends up with a deep, deep change in the baby, not just the good, warm, fuzzy feeling, but a fundamental shift in who that baby is, and who that baby will be. My situation turned out positive. ROBERT: So what is the licking doing then? The bit of DNA that will give this baby when it grows up the instincts to be nice to its baby, and lick that baby. She was totally an oops kid. And Destiny was in the other room, sleeping or something, I'm not sure. You're not leaving this hospital unless you have long-term birth control.". SAM KEAN: It seemed to have been passed down for multiple generations. ROBERT: You wonder, where did that come from? That's it. MICHAEL MEANEY: That activates maternal behavior. CARL ZIMMER: He actually named his daughter Lacerta, which is a genus of lizard. Push yourself and you got it.". And I didn't find a single case of someone saying that they regretted what they've done. You know, they say it only takes one time. CARL ZIMMER: Yeah. He thought that because theyre swinging hammers all day, they got big bulky muscles, and then theyd pass the muscles to their children. According to Darwin, life and changes are ruled by chance. LULU: In a very real way, weve been thinking a lot about inheritance. He's the guy who told us about Olov's work. But were getting ahead of ourselves here. So, the thought is, when those little boys in verkalix were really, really hungry, their hunger started a chemical process that reached all the way down to the DNA inside the boy's sperm. You know? [foreign language]. And one of them is called the thyroid system. Its so good that it makes you not want to trash the house, you know what I mean? Well, her explanation is that these women are having, in her terms, litters of damaged babies and society forever will be responsible for them. PAT: And I told Destiny I was thinking about this and asked her about it. PAT: Filled with dozens of letters from women that she's paid. Methylations, phosphorylation, and so on. [ARCHIVAL Clip, Panel: Well, I mean, Hitler thought that if you were Jewish, that you had given up the right to be a mother and hed sterilize people as well. Hosted by Jad Abumrad and Robert Krulwich, Radiolab is a " show about curiosity " that examines science, history, and philosophy to answer the big questions about life. I didn't see them as people. In this episode, originally aired in 2012, we put nature and nurture on a collision course and discover how outside forces can find a way inside us, and change not just our hearts and minds, but the basic biological blueprint that we pass on to future generations. All jokes aside. Which, when you think about it, it has a very Lamarckian flavor. She's somewhere, but it's not good from what we've heard. That's what good rat mothers do, they lick their babies a lot. She carries your kids for nine months and you're like, "That poor male toad.". JAD: So, in the end, where do you come down on this? JAD: I find myself thinking like, Okay, I know these kids have their genes half from me, half from my wife. It was this struggle for a few years. She's 20 months old. Radio Lab: Into the Brain of a Liar March 6, 2008 We all lie once a day or so, according to most studies. PAT: And all over the political spectrum, from Hollywood lefties to social conservatives. I'm in public health. He'd fall asleep and just wake up screaming. ], What's the worst thing you have been called by one of your critics?]. KARIN BORGKVIST LJUNG: Yes, he was retarded. Harris says her program, children requiring a caring community, or CRACK], Can prevent thousands of unwanted births to drug-addicted women. And to believe anything else, that's naive. And I was a waitress, I worked for IHOP for over 30 years. She said, "Well, she's just beautiful and she has lips like a baby doll." So he actually went to Vienna. We are working to provide transcripts for as much of our programming as we can over time. BARBARA HARRIS: Because he couldn't hold formula down. As to diabetes, it was a four-fold risk. JAD: What happens, it'll get stuck to one little part of the DNA and now that little bit of DNA FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: Is very difficult to get at. SAM KEAN: Because theyre reaching for the tops of trees. Yes, he was retarded. How was this woman allowed", BARBARA HARRIS: "To walk into the hospital and drop off a damaged baby and just walk away with no consequences?". You can't change your DNA. It's only the mechanisms are not so clear. PAT: So Barbara and her son got in the car and drove across town to the foster home where Destiny had been living for the past eight months. Just don't have any more children because, at that point, I didn't really know any of them. I agree with Lynn, that this program does perpetuate a stereotype. Lamarck said, You wanna know how a giraffe got its long neck?, One day this giraffe, mother giraffe, lets say, was looking up in the tree and saw some fruit, and had to stretch he neck, and stretch again. That is a bad way to start a kid's life but that's just the beginning of the kid's life. DESTINY HARRIS: Not been born at all. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: You have to look at one cage, say, are they licking? "To Whom It May Concern, I have been doing very good. Who, together, pledged more than $150,000 to her program.]. Except he had one. Like, "How did this happen? That kind of 30 years? And Destiny was in the other room, sleeping or something, I'm not sure. 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