Threads: 0. (but if you need the actual fan account to knock that off, i guess ill find someone who can give that to you. its actually really frustrating when sources get deleted because then theres no definite way to tell exactly what somebody said. There are so many kids in the . Ive privated the post because it was very poorly made and I acknowledge that, however, some of the criticism Im getting is from 1) people who havent actually read the post and 2) people who are refusing to acknowledge some of the things I did include in it. Mamamoo - Solar. okay so somebody sent me a link to the video (thank you btw!) They have been affectionately dubbed festival queens as they attend a great many every year, always ready to hype up the crowd and turn every event into a Mamamoo concert. document.querySelector("#adunit").addEventListener('click',function(){ And the answer is simple: Hwasa has been their scapegoat for years now. Everyone is allowed to make mistakes and with those mistakes, come the opportunity to correct them. Most of the controveries are from a while back (solar imitating her senior, the strawberry jam song). problematickpop:. However it did look dumb not going to lie not a good look and hopes she does not it again. Mamamoo's Hwasa has come under fire more than once after accusations of racism and cultural appropriation. I didnt really spend a huge amount of time on that Super Junior post and I didnt properly think about the way I was phrasing things, or the information I was including. Again I apologise for any of the harm I have caused with this blog, it was definitely unintentional, but thats no excuse. It took years to unlearn what was taught to me, become more informed, and develop my own beliefs. We will be taking time to understand more about our international fans to ensure this never happens again. Hwasa in 2015 said the n word in a show where she was given the lyrics but being a non English speaker she clearly didn't know what she was saying. True, the haters just don't know them so they judge easily. Its not good when people exaggerate stuff (like they did with Siwon) but its good to keep discussions going on offensive things in kpop, 3) Thank you for the fanaccounts/links about the Siwon thing (Ill add them to the list), thats the kind of thing I appreciate being told because I am not omniscient and I dont know everything (Also I think I already had one of those on there?). ", And if anybody wants to get brave about their past mistakes, heres a link with receipts and explanations. omg lol at everything written under heechul. They received their first music show win in 2016 with Youre The Best and have since gone on to win dozens more, ending 2019 with a combined total of 41 music show wins, making them one of the most highest winning girl groups in history. Im also scared of spreading misinformation and making mistakes (both of which are things I have done), and I dont like the idea of people feeling too intimidated to call me out when I mess up. Read more about it here. As Ive said before, Im not a muslim, and I was just going off of what Id seen other muslim bloggers say. I cant undo posting it, but I regret it and Im really, genuinely sorry for spreading incorrect information and for any of the fans I upset. But she probably could not have predicted that an #AskHwasa hashtag could have drawn out some of the worst Twitter drags in recent times. yeah, suju has done problematic stuff and i agree, we shouldnt defend it or excuse it, its good to have that kind of discussion. window.adsContainer = {"positionAfterTitle":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle5_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position2":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_After_Title_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position3":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Below_Next_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position4":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position5":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle1_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position6":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle2_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position7":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle3_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position8":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle4_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position9":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle5_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position10":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle6_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position11":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle7_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position12":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle8_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position13":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle9_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position14":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle10_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position15":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle11_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position16":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle12_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"positionTop":{"code":"Article_Desktop_970x250_Header_Rel","isOrganicUserAd":false,"max_width":970,"max_height":250},"positionBottom":{"code":"Article_Desktop_Sidebar_Bottom_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":300,"max_height":600},"positionBottomRight":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_After_Title_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":336,"max_height":280}} The media and antis take things and blow it way out of proportion. Joined: Sep 2021 #1. if he simply stated that he thought they were gay/trans, then there isnt a problem because theres nothing wrong with a person being gay/trans. Its so sad because I love them and hope they grow more internationally. I also hear about a clown outfit she wore in one of their videos that people again try to say was blackface but how when she's naturally tan and didn't look any different than normal so I was like huh. My mom would like to know" while another asked, "Is mama Africa a good name for you? She made her solo debut with the single "Spit It Out" on April 23, 2020.She released her first extended play : Face with its . media-tech companies with hubs around the world. The whole thing was carelessly done and not very thorough. I suffer from lots of different mental health problems (I dont want to go too into detail but I have ADHD and also struggle with BPD, bipolar + other issues) and this blog really does not help. Yes I should have looked into the Siwon stuff more, because when you watch the video, you can tell he said afterwards that he was joking. Someone texted back, Its about to get worse, they will try to trend another hate tweet. window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('slotOnload', function(event) { document.querySelector("#ads").addEventListener('click',function(){ I have a tendency to get a bit defensive and come across as rude/mocking/patronising/self righteous when I dont mean to, which Im trying to work on, but its hard to tell when Im doing it, so I try to avoid argument a lot. Um yeah they are just that close that they make fun of each other. Thank you everybody for everything! but its hard not to be. And then later on she includes a list of problematic things that her favourite (boy) group has done and it's literally 3x as long. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I really dislike fat girls. I did do that on my exo masterpost, but I also spent a lot more time and thought on that post as well. (Photo : Mr. Kim) Apink Chorong was a school bully, New recordings and evidence Revealed [+1,956, -53] As expected, the entertainment industry is filled with kids with such dirty personalities~~~~~. It has become commonplace to trash Mamamoo and Hwasa in particular, just another meme or joke to let slide. Honestly, I would want the person that I love to be more pretty or more handsome., Culturally appropriated a Native American headdress. eventAction: 'click_image_ads' ; _____; aaaa. | by unchangingtruth | Medium Write Sign up Sign In 500 Apologies, but something went wrong on our end. There are multiple reasons but a large one being Im just not educated enough. hey uh, not a lot of people are anyway (thankfully), but Id really appreciate it if people could stop reblogging the super junior post I made, thatd be fab ty. ga('create', 'UA-67136960-15', 'auto', 'ads'); I'm gonna keep following them and follow my own judgement. People can and do change, me from two years ago was a huge mess of anti-social justiceness (somehow) and I used to despise blogs like the very one Im running right now. if henry said that the idea of his band mates being gay/transworried him, thats homophobic and transphobic. When asked about it, she replied that it was an homage to Rihanna, who wore something similar in a performance, as RIhanna is one of the people she looks up to the most. I dont really want this published but Im Korean and I just watched the SISTAR video and the translations are pretty accurate, Hyorin was trying to say how bora has all black fashion and her hair and black complexion adds on to it, and I felt that too (soyu was trying to suggest that hyorin had darker skin than bora so hyorin shouldnt talk about anyone elses skin color) so hyorin was like yeah but at least I dont wear black clothes like bora! Some of the stuff I included turned out to be something I misunderstood (for example, the gifset of Siwon) and with other things, I didnt include enough information or included misinformation. disclaimer: i am NOT trying to cancel any of the idols on this list, just calling them out. Recently the show aired a special live on the YouTube channel of I Live Alone. They are definitely not out to hurt anybody, that I know for sure. I recently fell in love with these girls again after I took a break from kpop. okay so people seemed to find my exo masterpost pretty helpful and I'm very aware that suju aren't exactly the least offensive group around, so (since the YFIP one isn't very up-to-date) I thought I'd make a super junior masterpost since I'm a suju fan and I want to provide helpful resources for other fans . On top of that, they bash the fans saying we overlook everything and that Mamamoo should have been cancelled by now. if(document.querySelector("#ads")){ Above all, however, Mamamoo is a power-vocal group and strongly celebrated for it, even winning Favorite Vocal Artist at both the 2018 and 2019 MAMAs. i am so so tired. That worried him. Group. Yeah, the first thing international fans do is hear that Mamamoo is bad and that they shouldn't like them, and then they jump in on the hate without doing their own research. 18 Jan 2023, 08:31 PM . In 2017, Mamamoo created an ending concert video for moos (their fans), where they did a parody of Bruno Mars Uptown Funk. Yes, I should have included more info and specified where I wasnt knowledgable. I encourage everybody to keep general discussion going, but for now, Im stepping out. People always said they do so much CA and I tried to find some examples but the only one that again seemed to be twisted was them appropriating Indian culture during AZE GAG but that was misconstrued as it was about Buddhism not Hindu culture even the line is the song is about Buddhism and one of the members is Buddhist so I don't have a massive issue with it. Yes I should have included more context. When people see my profile pic on Instagram and see that I'm a black Moomoo , they always try to use it against me saying that I must not care about the black community if I still support them. #AskHwasa. Sorry this got a bit long but I appreciate you responding. Kim Yong-sun (Korean: , born February 21, 1991), better known by the stage name Solar (Korean: ), is a South Korean singer, songwriter and actress signed under RBW.She is the leader and main vocalist of girl group Mamamoo and its sub-unit Mamamoo+. It arguably began around late 2018 Windflower era, when antis began to change Mamamoo's music video titles to racial slurs and death threats. As much as I have enjoyed running this blog, there are lots of aspects of it which have purely been a source of anxiety and distress for me. Like everyone says here, it will never excuse their actions but if we can see them grow and learn from their mistakes I'll always be there to support them. They were ignorant and uneducated at the time. However, this became a lot more unlikely when a second video was released, titled censored version, which did not include the supposed autism comment. Thanks for posting this. ourbridgeisforever:. I dont think people should defend what others do/say, regardless of how long ago it was, but I do think people should look at stuff in context and use a degree of common sense. Ive heard Moomoos are known as fairly passive, but its also why they are known as some of the most accepting and even better behaved fans. there is nothing wrong with heechul thinking kris leaving exo was disrespectful - its his opinion, its not problematic. okay so people seemed to find my exo masterpost pretty helpful and Im very aware that suju arent exactly the least offensive group around, so (since the YFIP one isnt very up-to-date) I thought Id make a super junior masterpost since Im a suju fan and I want to provide helpful resources for other fans. i seriously didnt mean to sound defensive?? You need to Register or Login to view the content They never went into these situations with the intent of hurting or offending anyone. okay so before i start this list, i just wanna clarify: i am an exo stan. Trust me when I say that most of the people who whine about mamamoo blackface are non-black people , I've seen a lot of black MooMoos who have forgiven them since the apology , but a lot of non black kpop fans wear it on their neck like it actually affected them in the first place , I may be the only one who thinks this way but American Kpop fans act very arrogantly when it comes to mamamoo a controversy. And yes I did make an exo masterpost, heres a link. MAMAMOO debuted on June 18, 2014, along with their single "Mr. Ambiguous." MAMAMOO was commended along with their first single by the critics as one of the best K-pop debut group in 2014. It is continued bashing and harassment of four girls, who for all accounts dont deserve it. JavaScript is disabled. I think its kind of childish and irresponsible to exaggerate information and twist the truth just to justify your own personal dislike for a person, without regard for out it may affect them or their fans. But seeing these articles faze me. A large section of the hate she receives is linked to the idol rarely conforming to what is typically expected of women in K-pop, particularly ones in girl groups. Because of mistakes that they've made out of ignorance, mistakes that they've apologized for. also please read this before trying to contact me about any of this. Because of MISTAKES. But their fans always informed them about their insensitive actions and Mamamoo always immediately apologized. Their sound is diverse, but can best be described as a mix between jazz, retro, and R&B. ", Hey remember dressing up in blackface with the rest of Mamamoo #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/3AqtVlig1n, what we feeling today -er or -a? Regardless, a fan who thinks that its not a problem isnt going to hold it against Heechul, the point of the post isnt to make you hate the idols (Heechul is literally one of my ultimate biases) its just supposed to be informative. 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