With areas like Germany, Italy, China, and the rest of the world getting the praises for coming up with truly timeless knives, the USA takes the glory for this one. The knife is about 12 / 30.5 cm overall; blued blade is about 6-15/16 /17.7 cm. Maybe a high school classmate possibly but I dont know. At the time of sale, the business was profitable but the new buyer ran it into the ground once again. By contrast, the current DoD procurement process is much more refined and regulated. Thanks for contacting me. Did you recently find a Camillus knife, and youd like to know what era it came from? My friend and I were just talking about this specific subject, she actually is normally attempting to prove me completely wrong! Above that it simply says "Army Air Forces". The bolt has a chip near the center so maybe it was well used as a hammer. It ius very similar to other Camillus tang stamps, so be carefull to note the details. If I am honest, theyre not the only ones to make this mistake. If you dont find your stamp and logo from there, use the official stamp/ logo guide from the official Ka-bar website as seen below: There is a lot that you can tell about the Ka-bar knife from the markings on the blade. In 1957, the Marble-Arms Corporation submitted to the U.S. government a design based on their Ideal Hunting Knife design. The Additionally, the jet age in military aviation increased the number of gear pilots and aircrews had to carry on their flights. Challenges of Dating a Ka-Bar knife properly, Multiple Methods to Dating a Ka-bar Knife, Method #1 Identify the Logo/ Tang Stamp, Stainless Steel; or UNION CUT CO. & OLEAN, N. Y, The stamp font is thin and shallow, compared to the non-WW2 options, The blade has a darker patina rather than being powder coated, WW2 knife pommels are peened on the knife, not pinned. As a result, the Ontario Knife Company developed a prototype based on the 1957 design that was first submitted by Marble. Hi John, Going into 1944, treatment of the blades became more prevalent in the manufacture. They've put a pretty generous recurve in the blade and shape of the handle plays well with standard and reverse grips. Thank you. No matter the reason for wanting to date that blade, these methods will get you an accurate year or an era, at worst. Why? Any Further Details or assistance is greatly appreciated. The M3 was originally designated for issue to soldiers not otherwise equipped with a bayonet. The genesis of the Air Force Survival Knife goes back to the 1950s at the dawn of the jet age. 5665: Early 12/29/1939 prototype of the new Camillus design Camillus Proptotype with 5 inches blade which was not accepted. Hello, I own one as a backup knife for my backpacking, outdoor, and emergency needs. In June of '60, the contract was changed to requiring a peened pommel (as was used on all later production). Any information you could provide would be greatly appreciated. The bit telltale difference is the sharpened false edge. Likewise, dont just take their dates for it. If the Marines had a Para knife The stamping was kind of inconsistent from my research. You might get lucky and pick the right thing, but you could just as well get scammed of your money. These fakes are even made with materials that age fast, tricking you into thinking that the knife has indeed seen a lot of years. Very creative, one of the nicer sites I have seen today. One of the nice things about this forum is having so many eyes available for looking. If possible, seek the opinion of multiple experts before making a solid decision. You are able to get the knife because it is dummy corded to you. Marble produced several thousand knives for field testing and delivered them to the U.S. Air Force between 1957-1959. Thank you, this is a very informative treatise on this knife. Possibly, some may have had one issued to them while serving in the military. Both are Camillus but one has a 1" longer blade. the Camillus designs submitted for testing. They is a lot more ingredients to the batch of pudding for these knives. Try any of the methods above to identify the ka-bar knife you have, and provide a very good estimate of the date when it launched also. The serrated spine on this knife is part of the functional requirements for this knife. When you have a knife that meets the specs above, it could only have been made in 1944 or 1945. Look at these two knives in the photo below. Dustin- Great information! This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. The grip will be made of leather in compliance with Federal Standard KK-L-165. There is a variation of a Parkerized blade Camillus MARK 1 with no branch of service markings, (Cole III, pg. What are the unique features of the Air Force Survival Knife, as outlined in the U.S. Government specifications? These sheaths are in a very different style from the For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I suspect it is Vietnam era from its condition. This is the knife as adopted, kept for the Major Hykr is my blog site to chronicle my hiking and backpacking experiences. As originally designed it had a 6", saw back blade. The leather for the grip will be cut into washers, 1/8 inch in thickness. Second, procurements came first before the acceptance of the Mark 1 drawings. The earliest Camillus factory experimental 6 inch Jet Pilot I got my first one from an electricians mate on the CG Cutter I was serving aboard back in the 70s. has the Mark 2 pommel not the M3 version. I own one of these knives and recently became interested in its history when one was found in a japanese built WWII tunnel system in a mountain in Northern Luzon, Philippines. Im assuming the knife is an earlier production but, as its a 5 inch blade, it has to be after 1961. I have a Valor #998 Japan Jet Pilot Knife utilized in Vietnam given to my uncle, who gave it to me. While researching this knife I discovered that Camillus, the same manufacturer as the iconic Kabar fighting knife, was the main producer of these knives. The tip of the sheath is pointed and the back part of leather extends beyond the front for two lanyard holes. Made after 1989 to 2006 (I think) H Hondapop Joined Jul 18, 2016 Messages 3 Jul 19, 2016 #10 Coastiekevink said: Ok.I'll ask! Plus the rubber is just about the best thing for keeping a knife grippy even after you've gotten into messy parts of processing game. Below are some timelines for you to explore:Tang StampStamp DesignExtra MarkingsDateUnion Cutlery Co., Tidioute, Pa;Union Cut. Hi. But so many times the answer can be quite complicated. It doesn't get much better then this one. together at the same time. survival kit knife with straight line marking. They did not adopt this knife, as we know the M3 was Today, we keep finding fewer and fewer people who fought in WWII around. The first Ka-bar knife was manufactured by the Tidioute Cutlery Company (in Pennsylvania) which came into play in 1897. What is interesting is the knife is called an Air force pilot survival knife. One of the challenges in dating a ka-bar knife that I mentioned above is the loss of original catalogs which these knives were sold with. Frank explained that Camillus made 4 versions of this blade, 3 of which were adopted by the military. room when the company was auctioned off. Ive bookmarked your site and Im including your RSS feeds to my Google account. storage. It is assumed that such information resides in the archives of the companies that have manufactured the knife as well as the files of the DoD. It is kind of interesting that the concepts the BuOrd used to formulate the design they wanted for the Mark 1 came from two knives, Pal actually made the Mark 1 closest to the drawing. The one on the left is a 1972 and the one on the right has no date. Show me your knife, and I'll tell you who you are. The intended use of the knife is for pilots as required in survival situations. These items Any Pilot Survival Knife MIL-K-8662(AER). We see this one constantly on sale as a "Vietnam Thanks! It would also be much easier to confirm additional details about the knives, not just who made them and when. Im interested in finding out about what I believe is not a USAF Pilot Survival Knife, but may in fact be an Asian made imitation. In fact, I believe that learning how to date a ka-bar knife requires more attention to detail and a couple of more moving parts than when we were dealing with the Kissing Crane knives. by orvet Thu May 30, 2013 2:01 pm, Post They adopted the single pin It has a decent leather scabbard with no hole in the tip and leather cords intact, as well as the stone with similar markings as others Ive seen. Held off rust well, and it is pretty solid. Thanks for taking the time to read. You mentioned the Ontario KNife Company briefly in the article. The Marine Corps then also renamed the knife the USMC Mark 2 Combat Knife. inch Mark 2 with a M3 pommel. The company manufactured Camillus branded knives and was a prolific contractor for other knife brands up until its last days in 2007 when the company filed for bankruptcy. I always assumed it was a Marine issued Kabar knife. Below the knives are short write up of what they are. An unmarked prototype hunter with Stagged Rosewood and USMC Raider reproduction with fine pewter handle. I have never seen that variation. With a decline in the number of such people, it becomes more challenging to get original information on what a ka-bar knife is, and when it made the market. At the end of the war, the decision to ramp up capacity paid off as Camillus could now make its knives and still churn others out under contract. The TL-29 electrician's knife was originally an issue item manufactured by the Camillus Cutlery Company. It looks exactly like the survival knife from the air force. Here is an image of my fullered 5 inch blade next to the saber ground blade knife. This is when Camillus re-designed their screw top pommel. After vetting the information against the published government standards for this knife and the government procurement process, what emerged was a unique story of an iconic knife that has found its way from the military to the civilian outdoor world and into the hearts of many owners and users. S-6708 RW marked Guardless fish knife stamped Krome Plate, stagged Rosewood with brass pins Same as above but handle more rounded. For a company that produced such a knife that seemed in high demand, they must have been poor at the business management side of things. MK2 on the other. 27. Your email address will not be published. rivets, Kent Sportsman with etching and stagged bone and large The tang stamp shown here is known as Camillus' four line stamp. Later, after service members began returning from Vietnam, the military-grade issued knives began to be seen on the market. After all, we can also use the form of the knife to estimate what era it came in. You can jump to the following sections if youre in a hurry, but I would advise that you dont skip this part. The fun thing is that you also date the scabbards. The good news is that I found multiple ways to determine how old your Camillus knife is. This military specification document would become the standard for further improvements and changes to the pilot survival knife throughout the years. This was one of The original parkerization is worn a bit and it has been sharpened, and there was some paint that mostly has chipped off. Keep up the great work. Thanks for your work. This knife was popular during the second world war and I will assume that so are the people who knew a lot about it. The Air Force Survival Knife is an excellent knife. These bayonets are very similar to the originals so you need to check and the empty draws. Another possibility, is that a previous owner modified the knife after it was issued or purchased. Ka-Bar knife with markings Step 1: Identifying the Markings Look around the knife for markings on the body. Additionally, OKC is the only company selling this knife commercially. compares with this knife. 1 2 3 Items 1 - 12 of 27 Show per page Sort By Camillus Bombat 6" Pocket Knife #19484 $17.99 They were also overridden by poor management decisions, culminating in a six-month workers strike in 2007. Many thanks! by Colonel666 Mon May 27, 2013 2:59 am, Post The 1954 update calls for the knife to have a sharpened clip point blade and an additional rivet to the sheath. They are hard to find. with steel domed rivets. The Camillus Cutlery Company was one of the oldest knife manufacturers in the United States with roots dating back to 1876. I had suspected that was the case but did not have any evidence. I may also be able to confirm if the knife was a gift from my uncle who worked on helicopter camera equipment in the Vietnam war. It is marked U.S.N over MARK I. ? Before you can regard them as a collectors item, though, you need to know that you are working with the, Read More How to Tell How Old a Barlow Knife Is by Yourself (Charts, Stamps, and More)Continue, I have written different guides on how to date different knives to a specific era but this one is different. and took them with me when the auction was over. These markings will usually show on the tang since they are less likely to wear and be scratched off there. Can you say more about how Ontario played a role in the Survival Knifes evolution ? Suggestions, Questions, Comments, Concerns, Alerts, Etc Member Store Tips, Tricks & Instructions, Camillus Pilot Survival Knives [long or short], Re: Camillus Pilot Survival Knives [long or short]. Ka-bar knives are not made like they used to be anymore. Phil, Dated 1/25/1943 on the order. These influences upon the procurement system tempered the DoD design features of the knife. Camillus wanted to send the knife with a hack saw blade attached to Both have dark what I believe is blued blades. Finally Ive found something which helped me. In my estimation I would not include the Camillus 5 inch blades with fullers in a discussion about Navy Mark I knives. The handle should fold out to cover the entire blade edge. Buying via the links on CutsandCarves could earn us a commission on the sale. 5665 J86: Prototype dated 3/25/1942 made for the Army I would classify them as USAAF knives. large bakelite pommel and multiple spacers. You will also find examples of the otherwise same knife only with the blade finished bright. Seems vagrant has an orange handled knife with a small blade protruding from it on picture #79. This was where he first got a taste for cutlery, which would later shape the man he became and the company he launched. We made no attempt to do any cleaning in case the knife is old. Woolworths, S3388: When the Marines formed the ParaMarines they needed a Heres another variant knife that Frank Trzaska mentions in his 6/01/2002 knife knotes. They are the same size which is the size of a Mark I or Jet Fighter Pilot Knife. The blade design is different then the The condition of the leather sheath is what would one would expect to be from late 1960s to early 1970s vintage as it was found at the time, which has not degraded since. You must log in or register to reply here. pins marked Kent, As above with different tang markings, still a Kent. the markings are all the same and in the same place as the originals. My name is Steve and i live in Australia..I have recently started collecting knives from the Vietnam era..I just purchased 1 on ebay but the more i try to confirm the sellers claim the more i become frustrated and confusedplease help me. hunting knife. Ken Spielvogel - The "Accumulator" of knives- "The Talking Knives". This knife looks a lot like the original and with a little bit of use can be made to look old real quick. Where did she find it? Heres a link to Frank Trzaska's Note on the subject. by orvet Tue May 28, 2013 1:20 pm, Post Co., Olean N.Y.Straight lineNilFrom 1909Union Cut. The dummy cord is tied on a hole at the blade guard and then it is sewn in the green pouch. The first bullet point was in an initial version of the article. Heavily used Camillus hunter, possible returned to the I have 2 Camillus Knives that are similar but different. I hope this helps. steel dome pins. That same year, the Marble-Arms Corporation (now known as Marbles) began work on designing their prototype for the survival knife based on the government specifications. It isnt worth that much plus its actually a pretty good knife. Required fields are marked *. I sent some pictures I have of mine, Major. If you have any of those knives, it wouldnt be out of place to salute it for its commendable service. After the completion of testing and bidding competition between Marble, Camillus Cutlery, and the Ontario Knife Company (OKC), Camillus was awarded the contract to supply the new Jet Pilot Survival Knife (JPSK) to the Department of Defense instead of Marble. The only way to stay in the knife business and keep running a profit was to start making and selling them domestically. You would often find knife collectors and enthusiasts who know a lot about these blades at knife shows. As such, this knife was not intended as a frontiersman or bushcraft knife, per se. Never knew that opinions could be this varied. flat sided pommel to be used for hammering prior to the adoption of the hex Over the decades, this document has been updated. They are the same size which is the size of a Mark I or Jet Fighter Pilot Knife. Its total length is 292mm (11 5/8 inches). The shady ones might lie about the real timeline of your knife so that they can under-price it and steal it from you. You need to get the knife out to cut your way out. this one, it should be a fantastic story to be uncovered one day. I also picked up another old Camillus that has no dates on it whatsoever. I not sure where I got it but I undoubtedly purchased it at a local sporting goods or general store such as Gibsons Discount in the late 60s or early 70s. Just looks cute. S1408: This is a prototype Camillus sent in to alter the The one on the right pommel nut and screw are brass. 5683 L75: The Camillus Mark 1 prototype reference piece. Most of the information that I have collected about the knife comes from blogs and knife forums on the internet. Hoping to try and date them but I am finding conflicting information. This knife has been around for many years. The new design that was adopted was the 6 inch JPK. brass rivets, Another Kent with stagged bone and small brass domed Phillip; Quality knives and tools with lowest prices. Not all Ka-bar knives will have a serial number, but checking this fine detail would make sense where possible. Camillus Tang Stamps and Dates (www.bladeforums.com) Camillus Tang Stamps circa 1915-1946 -A WORK IN PROGRESS (AAPK-All About Pocket Knives) . Is this unusual? http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/295814-5-inch-hunting-and-sheath-knives/?hl=%2Bpilots+%2Bknife&do=findComment&comment=2377348, http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/111421-odd-camillus-usn-mark-1/?hl=%2Bpilots+%2Bknife&do=findComment&comment=830644, http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/200448-questions-on-a-bright-blade-camillus-mark-1/. The Air Force Survival Knife will be around for a very long time. Kent Stagged Rosewood with steel rivets, same as above. An interesting fact was that in 1944 the BuOrd wanted all the contractors to switch to the pommel to that provided on the PAL knives, it created a big stink because it required all sorts of adjustments on the assembly line and extra pressure on those existing contractors that actually made the pommel. business. However it was a cheap copy of low quality steel! The Air Force Survival Knife was introduced to the commercial market by Marble after not being awarded the DoD contract to supply the new survival knife to the military. There was a spin off copy cat comp. About as plain as you can get, this is a prototype paring Made after march 1985 to 2006. Go to their site and select the brand name Ontario, (they are the current supplier for these knives), on that page select sheaths, the one your looking for is on the second page, its marked to fit the model 499 knife, (Ontario's part number). quick. It was later made with an etch on the blade "Sportsman" The genesis of the Air Force Survival Knife goes back to the 1950s at the dawn of the jet age. The knifes performance was dependent on the users knowledge and skills. It is well preserved and stored away since my discharge in 1966. Thanks for your help. the Above JPK and the Marbles in the 1953 to 1957 time frame. Do you have any information on this kind of knife ever being produced? You have a very scarce Camillus MARK 1. Thus, the current standards, methods, and procedures were not necessarily applicable to the procurement process that brought this knife into existence. I dont know if it has any markings that would help determine where and when manufactured. There were of course Marines stationed on the base. Knife #1 and #2 were never found in the factory collection years ago, this There was a metal guard that fit over the end of the blade when the folding machete was closed. The knife was originally designed in 1957 as a joint issue between the Navy Weapons Bureau and the Marbles Arms Company. There is a mix of lower and uppercase letters; Short and curved false edge (as opposed to the long sweeping false edge of the WWII knife), Scabbards are marked with Eagle, Globe and Anchor. This does not impact the price of the item youre buying and it supports me to keep creating the content that you love. The reason behind Marble selling their knife to the general public was due, in part, to pre-maturely manufacturing several thousand knife blades and parts in advance of learning who would be awarded the government contract to supply the knives to the military. Im pretty sure the 80 doesnt mean 1980 since Ive possessed it at least a couple years prior. We have over 75,000 pieces of Boy and Girl Scout Memorabilia to sell. I have a 5 knife marked Ontario 10-76. Before you go dating your ka-bar knife, I think you might want to know some of the challenges that you could encounter, and why. In 1962, the knife was modified by reducing the blade to 5" in length. I attach a photo of the peened pommel that makes this 6" a 1960 model: Hi. Im not a fan of social media and dont use it. Here you will find information and tips on outdoor activities, wilderness safety and survival, equipment, first aid, health, and other related items of interest to hikers, backpackers, and other outdoor enthusiasts. Your email address will not be published. Schrade Knife Identification (www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us) Schrade Knives (AAPK-All About Pocket Knives) Victorinox. Later, when we received individual survival and flotation gear, the knife scabbard was sometimes sewn into the pocket where a .38 special was stored during Vietnam days on the survival vest. larger pommel version we all know. Thanks. by Colonel666 Sun May 26, 2013 1:43 am, Post In New York City. Some extremely valid points! I just bought this knife from Ontario Knife Company. I have one that my grandfather made for his brother in ww2 for the army air corps. Skip, I'm not sure that we can or can not label either of those knives as genuine Mark 1's. If you dont go to knife shows, you might also have some luck with veteran knife collectors in your locale. The topic got side tracked here a little bit with the USAAC hunting knives, those with the fuller blade. The 6 inches blade was shortend to 5 inches keeping the profile and was then accepted. I viewed the ransacked show room The blade markings are not specified on the Camillus drawing. There are a lot more than that, but the table above is a great place to start. "S" Cards and drawings, dates, etc, associated with these knives He was a family friend! Nickel silver guards made in 1948. One is the "Shark.". US MILITARIA FORUM - COLLECTORS PRESERVING HISTORY So Ive read that one way to tell a WW2 Kabar is the pommel will be pinned from both sides as well as peened. blade and solid spun rivets for the military. Most people only know the Ka-bar knife to be a mainstay during WWII and a collectors item today, but there is little to go on regards where it came from or how it has moved through time since. Do you have any additional information on what the 6-89 is and how it fits in the history. I would, thus, rather you look at the knife itself rather than trying to use the sheath to make a judgment. I will highly recommend this site! Find out more below. It doesn't sit flush my guess is it was replaced. Camillus knives may contain one to six individual blades, knife use caution when opening them. While that might make it harder to identify what a true Ka-bar knife is, though, it is a blessing in disguise sometimes. The original design of this 5" blade is, I believe, a pre-war Marbles design which was known as the "Ideal", a #45. Of course, they were sharp and most of them are older than us, but that doesnt mean we lost interest. factory collection. I carried it for next 8 years on my. rivets. This was one they wanted to make but never did. Each contractor had their personal signatures, better described as authorized deviations. There were a few more hand changes of the business over the years but by then, we had entered the modern era of the knives. Both marked CAMILLUS over N.Y. but the one on the left the font is larger. They got into every kind of game and having different manufacturers along the line meant that they all didnt have to stick to the same design philosophy. Some shady knife enthusiasts might want to get the knife from you at a steal price or in a swap deal for something else. Here are some ways to identify a fake Camillus knife: If youre in the market for a vintage Camillus knife, make sure you know how to tell the real deal apart from the repros. I used it for Scouting till 1968. the M3 pommel and guard to improve their knife and help conserve parts. We have seen it in outfitter stores, marketed on the internet, and may even have owned one. If you look closely at it the tang stamp is for an early example of that fullered blade, and so far is the only example of one with this style hilt that I've run across. During the war, they produced over 17 million knives of various type and spec for the military, more than any other knife maker. Camillus Factory still shot courtesy of Tom Williams showing Folding Knives from Camillus Cutlery Folding Knives Handle Color Black Select from a variety of quality Camillus and Western folding knife styles and folding knives that include liner locks, lock backs and frame locks. 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